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Dr Sam Illingworth's avatar

Thank you for being one of the few people I have seen to properly report on this issue. Also, there is nothing wrong with being the Privacy Cassandra, it's just a shame the the actions of others necessitates the need. 😢

Her Majesty of Ink and Exits's avatar

World isn't a separate venture that happens to solve a problem OpenAI created. Sam is building the next nest- he's done this before- inside the current one. funded and positioned by Openai.

OpenAI generates the bots. The bots create the verification crisis. World sells the verification. World's value depends on the crisis OpenAI maintains. The cofounder structure (Blania at Merge Labs with OpenAI seed funding, Altman at both) isn't coincidence...

Use the current platform's resources, reach, and crisis to build the next platform inside it, where the next platform monetizes the very thing the current platform broke.

thank you for this article- it just connected a dot I've been looking for for a while

Privacat's avatar

Funny — I’ve been hearing that a lot lately. But seriously, I’m glad it was helpful.

Finn Tropy's avatar

I read Tim Berners-Lee's latest book "This Is for Everyone: The Unfinished Story of the World Wide Web" last week.

His ideas about the future Web architecture where people own their data and strong regulators enforce companies to follow the laws such as GDPR are really needed to prevent this kind of corporate takeover of biometric data.

I was playing with the Solid protocol and testing some sample applications using my personal wallet (or pod as the technical term is called), and it was fairly straightforward to use apps where I had total control over my data.

We need more start-ups and developers to adopt these new Web standards and pushing to build new kind of apps that respect people's rights instead of this dystopian BS.

JHong's avatar

I, too, hate when I'm right when I have a seemingly cynical take on something.

And this of course made me think about how CLEAR has my eyeball data.

Meta also has countless videos of me turning my face up, down, left, and right bec I closed my account last year and now need to one to run ads for a client. Either that or pay for the monthly human verification check, rather than a bot. $%^)PIWE:!!

Tiffany Walker-Roper's avatar

I’m just wondering why this is even an acceptable option for identification on such a casual level. Thank you for highlighting this issue in the serious level that it requires.

Privacat's avatar

I think the simple answer is that people haven’t thought through the consequences, and it is damn hard to fight data disclosure tied to economic incentives.

If you look at where World was initially targeting its orbs, there was a heavy concentration in the developing world. Brasil, India, Kenya, The Philippines, Malaysia. https://restofworld.org/2023/worldcoin-orb-around-the-world/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CEasy%20$50%E2%80%9D,trending%20on%20Twitter%2C%20WhatsApp.%E2%80%9D

Financial incentives in poor locations go a long way to explaining things. Especially when people aren’t aware of the consequences, or what they’re ‘consenting’ to, especially when the Orb operators (who are incentivized to scan eyeballs, not dispense privacy advice) neglected to satisfy the ‘informed’ part of the consent requirements.

World is broadening more into Europe and the US now, but that was after they managed to convince millions to surrender their biometric data for tokens.

https://world.org/find-orb

Sergio Maldonado's avatar

Exactly. This alone (focus on Kenya, Brazil.. Spain) exposed the company’s entire ethical standing, I believe

Privacat's avatar

Well, that and so many other things. But definitely in those countries, which is why many of them banned World and ordered the data destroyed.

Digital-Mark's avatar

It's not. The moment we give them the most precious information in order to access their services, it's game over to us.

The Innovation Attorney's avatar

Biometric data is being aggressively addressed so hopefully all is not lost.

Just J's avatar

Thanks for sharing this. I didn't know the company behind is the one that gave people bitcoins in exchange for their iris. It's crazy that in this case tech seems to be 'against' us, who's problem are they trying to solve? Privacy doesn't matter any more?

Privacat's avatar

I mean, in many jurisdictions, including most of the US, privacy never really mattered. That isn’t new. What’s new is that now a handful of companies are stretching their technologies throughout all parts of our lives (with, or without our consent) and even the regulators who are trying to enforce boundaries are on the back foot, or have been so beaten down they don’t bother.

The political will has gone, and many are just resigned to accept it. Understandable, given everything else that’s on fire right now, but still very disheartening. https://insights.priva.cat/p/privacy-nihilism-is-pervasive-and

Digital-Mark's avatar

I remember that in 2023 the crypto space was buzzing about a new coin called Worldcoin. Obviously as I have a deep knowledge of this space I reserved some spare time (afternoon) to read the white paper of that project and my God, it left a sour taste in my mouth. It still is breaking even rule in the book across multiple books. Since then I knew that Altman is conman bringing an extreme level of surveillance. In my opinion all AI companies are in the same boat and it's up to us to make their life harder. Regarding your questions, Worldcoin breaches every article in the GDPR and countless other privacy jurisdictions.

Privacat's avatar

It would be quite a feat to breach every article in the GDPR (there are 99 of them, and only about 40 or so are applicable to controllers/processors.

But yeah, I get the point. Annoyingly, they’ve known what they’ve been doing wrong since 2023, and kept on doing it anyway. And since most people have short memories, they might be successful this time around.